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vomi1011 🇩🇪 | 396 ratings Posted 18 Oct '21

I noticed big price increase of Caronis since September.This is also reflected in the price indicator. The one year performance of 40% is higher than that of Macallan or Yamazaki Whisky with around 20%.

https://www.rarewhisky101.com/indices/distillery-specific-indices/caroni-rum-index

In addition, the prices of the independent bottlers are also increasing. So if you don't want to be late to buy a Caroni, do it now or these bottles will only be affordable for collectors. I'm not saying Caroni is a great investment (there is much better stuff), but if you're serious about drinking rum, get a bottle as a piece of history and save it. Next year there will be a book about Caroni that will give us more insider knowledge. It is foreseeable that prices will rise again.

I noticed that the offer on many platforms has shrunk. I can't find a lot of caroni anymore and that will get worse from next year.

kudzey (PREMIUM) 🇵🇱 | 38 ratings Replied 18 Oct '21

vomi1011 🇩🇪 | 396 ratings Replied 18 Oct '21

Toni (PREMIUM) 🇩🇪 | 28 ratings Replied 20 Oct '21

Caronis are definately on my list. But I have another question. With all this hype sooner or later some one will have the idea to reopen the destillery. Right?

vomi1011 🇩🇪 | 396 ratings Replied 21 Oct '21

The distillery could be reopened, but no one will be able to distill an original caroni anymore. It is the original yeast that you need, the column, the preparation of the mash in the same way.

Even if the employees may still know that, a 96 Caroni will not be available in the same quality in the next 20 years. Because it has to be aged first.

So for me it is pretty clear that there will be no Caronis in the next 20 years that can compete with current Velier bottlings.

kudzey (PREMIUM) 🇵🇱 | 38 ratings Replied 21 Oct '21

I haven't tried neither but I've heard that the Velier's Caroni are much different than the original Tate and Lyle from 50s and 60s. If reopened, I doubt the products of the distillery will be "the same". However, if one reopens the distillery, they would have a lot of attention, which makes this business probably worth it any it will happen eventually.

There is an ongoing attempt of recreating the original Demerara marques by El Dorado, I have no knowledge to comment on their results though. Not a reopening though as they get some old stills but some of the marques are redeveloped from scratch. The most attention-drawing Skeldon was probably distilled with the pot stills before closing the distillery in 1960. The two Skeldons from Velier are from 70s so these were distilled somewhere else, no idea the distillation device though. The "new" Skeldons from El Dorado are distilled with a Savalle Still.

 

I'd be really glad to compare it once but that's the most distant milestone to reach in my rum drinker career I can imagine so far.

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