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Jimmy Cliff (PREMIUM)

Posted 19 Nov '20 from United States with 282 ratings

I think this happens with new added rums by members. Specifically Sagacity was originally listed as 2005 with a picture of 2005 which is a separate rum. Now there are three rums listed there 2005, Sagacity 2005, and Sagacity. Sagacity is actually a 2007 rum. I caught this when I originally rated them and noted it. Now your site thinks I rated Sagacity twice which I didn’t. Anyway trying to get this straight if anyone even cares.
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Stefan Persson (TASTING CLUB)

From Sweden with 220 ratings Replied 20 Nov '20

Yes it's really messy when it comes to Foursquare. The image of "Port Cask Finish" is used twice, one is called "Port Cask Finish" and one is called "Port Cask Finish 9-year". The image of 2005 is used 3 times and is called "2005 12-year", "2005 Sagacity 12-year" and "2005 Barbados 12-year". The image of 2004 is used twice and is called "2004" and "2004 Bourbon Cask Strength 11-year". I have not read through all the reviews so I do not currently know if there are double or triple reviews. Know, however, that it is set in system by some members. I have helped Andy fix two brands, Dillon and Montebello, with similar problems. I would suggest that we who have time take some of our favorite brands and list the problems and send it to Andy.
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Andy (PREMIUM)

From United Kingdom with 112 ratings Replied 20 Nov '20

Ah yes, the never-ending battle to keep the Rumbase updated :) There's now even an 'Are you sure the rum isn't already here' area in the new rum add screen https://rumratings.com/brands/new, but still I'd guess 1/3 of new rums already exist. I've gone in and cleaned up the duplicates I found for Foursquare. It's a little more difficult right now as a few bottle images aren't displaying correctly (a CDN issue we've been working on), but I think we're in much better shape now.
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vomi1011

From Germany with 332 ratings Replied 20 Nov '20

@Andy Can we render and add pictures of new bottles? Because I have many bottles without a picture in my cabinet.
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Andy (PREMIUM)

From United Kingdom with 112 ratings Replied 4 Jan '21

Hey Vomi, sorry for the slow reply. I made a choice when launching RR that I didn't realize the impact - which is having a visual cabinet on each member's page would require every rum bottle to be 'cut out' to look good. The upside is when cut out the bottles look good. The downside is finding time to actually 'process' the bottle cutouts takes quite a bit of time. Some of the process is automated on the backend, but not everything. Others simply need to be cut out by hand, which requires an outsourcer to help. So long story short, I'd love some help with adding new bottles, but I just haven't found a way to make that happen. The good thing is almost all rums with over 3 ratings have images if an image does exist. For the rest, it's a slow process that I keep chipping away at, but may never be 100% complete :(
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Stefan Persson (TASTING CLUB)

From Sweden with 220 ratings Replied 4 Jan '21

Hi Andy, The Foursquare brand now looks much better. But the 2004 is still there with two images called "2004" and "2004 Bourbon Cask Strength 11-year". It’s the same rum and I think it should be called “2004 11-year”. I don’t know if you seen it, (understand there’s much to do) but I have under the “feed-back area” pointed out some other brands with similar problems.
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Andy (PREMIUM)

From United Kingdom with 112 ratings Replied 5 Jan '21

Thanks, I just updated the Foursquare rum as you suggested and also updated the feedback area ideas - thanks for the help!
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DonCoasn

From Germany with 4 ratings Replied 5 Jan '21

About how many pictures to cut out are we talking? I earned my living with stuff like that so I could offer my help. I really like this platform you have built for all of us and it is worth being supported!
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Boyse69

From United Kingdom with 27 ratings Replied 7 Jan '21

Thanks Andy I think I asked about Mount Gay the bottle is there but it didn't attach the new XO
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Andy (PREMIUM)

From United Kingdom with 112 ratings Replied 15 Jan '21

@Doncoasn thanks for the offer to help with cutouts - I just emailed you a link with instructions how to access the site backend to help... I appreciate it! If anyone else wants to help cutting out the background of bottle images let me know and I'll share access with you as well :) @Boyse69 I'm not sure what you mean about the Mount Gay bottle but I don't take individual requests to add bottle images - the problem is almost never finding the images, but moreso having time to verify they are the right image and then cut out the background.
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DonCoasn

From Germany with 4 ratings Replied 15 Jan '21

@Andy I didn't recieve the mail yet. Also checked the spam folder. Can you please resend it?
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vomi1011

From Germany with 332 ratings Replied 16 Jan '21

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Mr. Rumantic

From Germany with 94 ratings Replied 16 Jan '21

If more people are needed i could help too. Almost all pics of the El Ron del Artesano Rums are not attached. They are limited and if the Shops don't have them anymore, the pics are lost too. 🤯
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Boyse69

From United Kingdom with 27 ratings Replied 16 Jan '21

@ Andy They have changed the XO product and Bottle Label and packaging and put the price of the XO up by £32 in some cases in the UK hope that helps they are marketing the New XO as triple cask aged
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kudzey (TASTING CLUB)

From Poland with 18 ratings Replied 16 Jan '21

I'd like to help too. I started my database for monitoring prices and availability for 215 collectible rums and I plan to update it monthly and gradually extend. I have (uncut) pictures for all of them so far.
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Andy (PREMIUM)

From United Kingdom with 112 ratings Replied 16 Jan '21

Thanks to everyone who offered to help! I probably should have designed more systems from the beginning to leverage help like this. Cutting out tough background is a good starting point, let me thing about how you could also help with things like verifying new rum additions - sometimes it can take me forever at times trying to figure out if a submission is a duplicate or a 'real' rum to be added. For cutouts, we have a new 'external admin access' - please head over there and register: https://rumratings.com/external_user_session/new (sorry it's still a separate registration to your normal RR account at this point). I see a small bug with the images, will have that cleared up on Tuesday and then anyone who wants to help will see a stream of about 30 bottles currently that need the background to be cut out. @Don not sure why the email didn't come through - I tried to 'pre register' for you, but probably easiest if you register using the above steps then I'll grant you access.
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DonCoasn

From Germany with 4 ratings Replied 16 Jan '21

@Andy I have registered at the given URL. The system said, that my mail adress is already in use but I have some as backup 🙂 30 pics is not a big deal. Looking forward to help!
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kudzey (TASTING CLUB)

From Poland with 18 ratings Replied 4 Feb '21

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Andy (PREMIUM)

From United Kingdom with 112 ratings Replied 4 Feb '21

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AlexMo

From Russian Federation with 166 ratings Replied 28 Feb '21

The image of Foursquare 2004 11-Year has disappeared from my shelf, and it is not even in the listing of rum. Although if you look in the reviews of the rum, my lines are there.
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kudzey (TASTING CLUB)

From Poland with 18 ratings Replied 21 Mar '21

I've also noticed that "Foursquare Plenipotenziario" and "Velier Foursquare Plenipotenziario" ale exactly the same rums.
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Andy (PREMIUM)

From United Kingdom with 112 ratings Replied 21 Mar '21

Is that actually a Velier creation? Or should it be just under Foursquare?
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vomi1011

From Germany with 332 ratings Replied 21 Mar '21

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