I'm wondering what you guys find the best white rum. For example to make mojito. I'm used to mix it with havana club 3y or bacardi superior, but want to try something different.
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Consider Plantation 3 Star, has a balance and zing. Or if very (very) brave Sunset VSR
Hi! Personally I prefer Clement Canne Bleue.
Try Flor de cana. Really good for a silver rum.
Hi! Can only join Andras with Clement Canne Bleue but would like to add also the Neisson (also from Martinique) and Reimonenq Cœur de Chauffe (from Marie Galante if i am not wrong). Both on them beeing very tasty with wonderful nose flavours.
Any white rum is better than Bacardi Superior, but one cannot beat the taste and price of Plantation 3-Star Artisinal, especially for making mojitos. It is actually a dark rum with 13 grams per liter of added sugar and then is filtered to remove all color while keeping most of the fruit flavors. Now if you want hints of vanilla or chocolate in a white rum, try Vizcaya Cristal at a higher price. No other white rums come close to these two except for one from a craft distiller in northeast Florida called Marlin & Barrel. His white rum has hints of molasses.
Paul B, I don't if you can say no other rums come close to those two, there are a lot of excellent white rums out there, most of which have little or no added sugar. Banks 5 Island, El Dorado 3 yr, Matusalem Platino, Barbancourt white, Real McCoy 3 yr. All are excellent. Oronoco was a great one but I don't think it is produced any more.
I have a bottle of the Plantation that I have not opened it yet. At the moment I am drinking a hoppy beer so my palate is wrecked for the night, but I plan to open it soon and I will report back to you.
Scott T, I still have El Dorado 3 in my collection and my Matusalem Platino is long gone. The Plantation 3 Star easily beats those two in side by side blind tasting. I tried the amber Banks 7 at a bar and won't be buying any from Banks when I am in Texas in a few weeks. Real McCoy is not available where I live. Barbancourt just has not been the same after the quake. I recently tried their 15 year old at a bar and it was awful.
Paul B, I finally tried the Plantation white and I have to say it is very sweet. Honestly not blown away by it. Yes it is pleasant enough to sip but I attribute a lot of that to the added sugar. I tried it side by side with the Real McCoy 3 yr and it has some similar flavor characteristics but with no added sweetness. (Both bottles were freshly opened and i will retaste them in a few days).
I did a similar test with the Plantation 5 yr Barbados (which has around 20 g/ltr sugar) a couple years ago vs the Doorly's 5 yr Barbados. The results were the same, and when I added some sugar to the Doorly's they were indistinguishable. The difference being I can get a 1.75 ltr of the Doorly's for about the same price as a 750 of the Plantation. I have a hard time taking Plantation seriously as a brand given their prices and the amount of added sugar in pretty much their entire lineup.
The banks rum have some Batavia arrack in the blends which gives them a unique funky taste. You might not like them but I think they are very interesting. To each his own.
Scott T, I had the Plantation 5 year Barbados and was terribly disappointed with it. I could not wait to get rid of it. Adding 13 gpl of sugar to a white rum is quite high, but that still classifies Plantation 3-Star as semi dry. I did go to Captain Jimbo's Rum Project to get that massive list of rums with added sugar amounts. I was raised on a sweet tooth, but now have to cut back towards dry rums. My top rated dry rum is Dictador 12 year old with 0 gpl of added sugar. I also have to admit cheating on my rum collection by switching to tahona milled tequilas these past few weeks, such as Fortaleza and Suerte.
I found out that Spec's in Texas carries The Real McCoy, so I will pick up those when I am there in a few weeks. A store in Pensacola also carries them and I will be there in a few days. Beachbum Berry also told me about rums from R.L. Seale with no additives. I cannot even get the rum with Seale's name on it in that crooked bottle, nor can I get anything from Doorly's.
Paul B, Doorly's and Seale's are ONLY available at Total Wine. I have only been able to get them when I have been on vacation in Orlando, or my friend brought me some back from Atlanta. Here in NC liquor is not privatized.
As far as classifying something as "semi-dry", 13 g/ltr might be a lot less than many rums but in a light rum will be VERY noticeable. El Dorado 5 and 8 yr have in the 9-15 g/ltr of sugar, but much greater intensity of flavor than the Plantation 3 star so IMO the added sugar has less impact. Interestingly enough, i was surprised when I saw that the Diplomatico Reserva had only 13-15 g/ltr, I thought it was far sweeter than that. I would have guessed closer to 30.
I have yet to get ahold of any Suerte or Fortaleza but I know Suerte has a reputation as being very sweet. Siete Leguas is another one to check out, it is the brand that made the Patron name (before Patron started mass producing their own juice.)
Scott T, there is no added sugar in Suerte Anejo, just the natural sugars from the horno oven roasted agave hearts. I drank way too much of that tequila on Saturday and woke up with no ill after effects whatsoever, which proves that there is no added sugar. There is a HUGE difference between naturally occurring sugars and added sugars. I also should be able to pick up a bottle of Siete Lequas on Wednesday in Pensacola because one store carries it.
As for Diplomatico, their Reserva is now called Mantuano and their Blanco is now called Planas. The labels and contents have changed for both. And you are correct with 13 gpl of added sugar on the old Reserva. Their DRE has 41 gpl, which is ten freaking teaspoons of added sugar. For 20-29 gpl of added sugars, I call those rums as sweet. For 30-49 gpl of added sugars, those rums are sugar bombs. Flavored rums can go as high as 200 gpl in ones like Malibu Coconut.
I will be in Texas in a couple of weeks and they have Total Wine And More. However, leave it to Texas to close down all liquor stores when I am there on a Sunday and with me needing to hit the road before they open at 10 am on Monday.
Paul B, no sugar at all will make it through distillation so any sugar in any liquor has been added. Some wood sugar does come from the barrels during the aging process but the amount is negligible. Additiives are allowed under Tequila regulations (though not in Blancos starting in 2013.) As a reference 1% is around 10 g/ltr.
Suerte does not show up on their list of additive-free Tequila, though it is very popular among Tequila enthusiasts. As I said, I have never had it but have heard it is quite sweet from people I find reliable. That is the main reason I have never bought it.
Another article and a longer additive-free list. Siete Leguas is on this one.
Paul B, my apologies I must make a correction - Suerte is not the brand I was thinking of as being sweet. I texted my friend today and asked him (he was asleep along with normal people when I made the other posts). It must have been a Tequila with a similar name, I will try to find the old discussion about sweetened Tequilas and see which one.
Edit - OK I found the discussion. I must have been thinking of either Suavecito (most likely) or Arette Suave. Or maybe a little of both. The discussion was from several years ago.
Also, the regulations actually allow up to 85 g/ltr of dry materials to be added to Tequila. The other rule said 1% by volume. There is one expensive very popular tequila that is known to add a ton of sugar - Clase Azul. Comes in a really nice ceramic decanter.
Scott T, it looks like we are slowly steering the original question towards blanco tequilas instead of white rums (LOL). But that is okay because the lighter any spirit is, the less additives it usually has. I did go more in depth onto the Taste Tequila website and watched several videos by Grover. Then I explored the data base. Wow! However, expensive ones like Clase Azul can still hide behind additives. Since our rums and tequilas are made outside of the USA (for the most part), these companies don't have to reveal anything. Thank goodness for Captain Jimbo's Rum Project revealing added sugar amounts. There is a kit that one can order from him to test for added sugar amounts, but I don't know how to order it. It is also VERY cheap. Some reviewers on this site also post added sugar amounts and I thank them. I was also surprised to find out that some distillers add sucralose (Splenda), which is much worse than real sugar. Aspartane has also been used as ant poison and is known to cause memory loss in humans. Sometimes, sugar substitutes can be worse than real sugar except for stevia and turbinado.
Paul B, yes Tequila and rum suffer from some of the same lack of required disclosure. It's somewhat ironic given the strict regulations in the production of the juice itself that they allow them to add so much crap prior to bottling.
Not sure if you're aware but Siete Leguas is the brand that built the Patron name. They supplied the juice up until 2002, at which point Patron started making their own (and the quality went way down.)
To get back on track, I thought of a very good white rum I left out earlier - Denizen. Quite reasonably priced too. usually under $20.
Scott T, yes I was aware that Siete Leguas was the first producer of Patron. And now guess what? In January of this year Patron was sold to Bacardi for $5.1 billion. JPD is laughing all the way to the bank and will never be homeless again.
And yes, one review of Denizen White Rum specifically states that it would make great mojitos.
I will soon be off for a few days on the Emerald Coast of Florida. My cell phone is old time and stupid instead of smart.
Alrik, I whole heartedly recommend Can Brava 3 Year Old White Rum from Panama. I would rate it right up there with Plantation 3-Star Artisinal, but this Cana Brava has zero sugar added. Since it was created by the legendary Maestro Don Pancho (originally from Cuba and living in Panama with his own company since 1993), one cannot go wrong. This rum was created to make the original Cuban Daiquiri, but a Mojito is not too far off from this drink.
The bad part is that this rum is somewhat hard to find and priced at $32 per liter. However, it is worth every penny! It is worth finding! Once you find it, you will never go back to gasoline Bacardi.
paul B, don't believe all the marketing copy you read. Capn JImbo discredited the whole Don pancho fairy tale years ago.
Unfortunately there seems to be no regulation on backstories. Such as how companies such as Dictador suddenly appear on the market with some romantic origin story - and soon thereafter are selling 18-20 yr old rum. Mmmkay..
Scott T, I heard it straight from a well known rum expert and author about Don Pancho because I asked him how the Maestro managed to flee Cuba in 1993 and move to Panama. That was a very long story, which I will spare. Don Pancho now has his own line of rums with his name on them and I own a bottle of his 8 year old. In the case of Cana Brava, that company hired Don Pancho to come up with the recipe for Cana Brava rums.
Scott T, I read the entire article from Captain Jimbo about Don Pancho, which was assembled from false advertisements 11 years ago on rums that I refuse to buy. These are Ron de Jeremy, Zafra 21, and anything by Abuelo. I did have a bottle of Abuelo 12 a few months ago and bought it without knowing that Don Pancho's name was used to promote it. That Abuelo was so bad that I poured almost half of it down the toilet because I hate rums that are aged in sherry, port, or madeira casks. If you read all the way to the end of the article, Captain Jimbo mentions the truth about the man. However, Jimbo's big mistake is assuming that Don was a minor player in the rum industry because his name was never on any rums. Duh, in communist countries selling rum to the former USSR, no one was ever allowed to put their name on anything!!! Don wisely fled Cuba for Panama in 1993. He is alive and well. Thanks for the link to the article and I now have lost a lot of respect for Captain Jimbo after reading this article. However, no matter who created Cana Brava 3 Year Old White Rum, it is now my only white rum rated as an 8. I bought it based upon a recommendation from an extremely knowledgeable friend.
So Paul - I'm kind of curious, Don Pancho has been quoted as being against additives - yet his $90 Origines 18 yr has 16 grams/ltr of added sugar - and the 25 yr malt whisky finish (can't find a price but I'm sure $$$$)
has a whopping 34 g/ltr.
Also, I find it odd that his origines brand was founded 5 yrs ago yet has 8 18 and 30 yr old expression in the lineup. MMmkay.
If you choose to lose respect for Capn Jimbo because he doesn't buy into all the marketing BS, that's your choice. He was the leader of the movement against unlabeled additives and if he tends to be a cynic and skeptic then so be it, he has earned that right. Remember that post was from 7 years ago and has nothing to do with Don pancho's current brand, rather with the marketing BS surrounding Zafra and Ron de Jeremy.
Also in addition to Neisson - Pere Labat 59 and Bielle Blanc are very good options. Also I like HSE and Dillon 50-55 whites. They are under rated
Clément Premiere Canne Rhum is quite delicious and certainly on the dry side. Can certainly make for a fun take on the Cuban cocktails by going Agricole.
After rating rums for the past 13 months, here is a list of all of the white rums that I have tried, with my rating shown on the left. They are listed in the order of my final rankings. Only one rated below a 5 and none rated above an 8. I hope this helps.
8 Cana Brava 3 Year Old
7 Selvarey White
7 Plantation Artisinal 3-Stars
7 Vizcaya Cristal
7 Bayou Silver
7 Parade Argente Rum
7 Diplomatico Blanco
6 Sammy's Beach Bar
6 Flor de Cana Extra Dry 4 Year
6 El Dorado 3
6 Matusalem Platino
6 Boqueron Silver
6 Cruzan Light
5 Havana Club Blanco
5 Cruzan Estate Diamond Light 5
5 The Real McCoy 3 Year Old
5 Marlin & Barrel Bearing Light
5 Don Q Cristal
5 Naked Turtle
2 Wray & Nephew Overproof
Paul B - wow, 2 for W&N overproof? LOL - thats harsh. Looking at the reviews it seems to be a very polarizing rum, like Islay Scotch and Mezcal. Love it or hate it, no middle ground. (I like it for what it is - that ain't no sipper.)
Scott T - check out the You Tube videos of young ones drinking W&N overproof straight. Of course they all get sick. Any rum that I rate below a 6 will never get bought again.
Paul - I looked up a video of the "Wray&Nephew challenge", what a bunch of lightweights. I almost never do shots but I did one just for fun and no big deal. But then I have done some self torture before such as eating a raw habanero (two different times).
Havana Club 3Y in my case.
Hey there, I found Diplimatico Blanco to be really nice - I didn't notice anyone mentioning it?
Also, I don't think I've sorted by light and rating before on Explore but just noticed Vizcaya Crystal, Naked Turtle White, and Oronoco Fazenda Reserva as the top 3. Would be interesting to have a blind tasting of those 3 next to each other :)
The three epic ones is in my opinion:
River Antoine, Royal Grenadian Rum
Sunset, Very Strong Rum
Wray & Nephew Overproof
One of the best I’ve tasted is Bielle Blanc 59%.
Another good one is Diplomático Planas which is the oldest (6yo) white rum I’ve heard about. At last I also must mention ADL with their 3yo English Harbour and the Cavalier Puncheon.
have you ever taste the Venezuela´s white rum Diplomatico Planas? It tastes like coconut and coffee, It´s really amazing.
Agree with Stefan. If you actually want the rum to contribute to the taste, most overproof Jamaicans are hard to beat (Hampden Rum Fire or W&N Overproof). I have never tried River Antoine in cocktail. It’s just so hard to come by so I prefer drinking it neat. Sunset is on my list. And my favorite white is Rum Nation Jamaica 2014 (Worthy Park). It has added sugar but screw it. I love the smoky side of it. Overproof Jamaicans are also great medicine for headaches, stomachaches or insect bites. It’s important to apply it both externally and internally;)
Andy said: "I don't think I've sorted by light and rating before on Explore but just noticed Vizcaya Crystal, Naked Turtle White, and Oronoco Fazenda Reserva as the top 3. Would be interesting to have a blind tasting of those 3 next to each other :)"
I agree that the Vizcaya Crystal and Naked Turtle White are two of the best white rums (I haven't tried the Oronoco yet). I also like the Banks 5 Island, which has a lot of great reviews, though a few reviewers didn't like it quite as much and brought the overall score down.
I posted Botran a few weeks ago.
It’s Christmas Day and I’ve just discovered St Nicholas Abbey’s beats everything. And most golden rums.
If you want to try something DIFFERENT, consider Batavia Arrack or an agricole (French-style "rhum") if you have access. I don't know whether they are "the best," but that's really subjective anyway. Most of my experience with white rums is in daiquiris or ti'punch.
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